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The medium creates different standards and expectations, especially as it compares to print or film. A game must consider agency. Many must go further than simply consider it, by actively supporting…

i really appreciate your time and consideration, however you are missing the point. i don’t mean to sound like a dick, but you have completly misunderstood me.

this is a comparative exercise of one element of a ‘work’. only one element is being compared, and this is all we care about.

in this case we are comparing the writing in a variety of different mediums. obviously with them all being different, they have differing limitations. these limitations are irrelevant for the sake of this exercise. 

you cannot claim all things have the same aspect, yet refuse to compare them. this is not a case of ‘apples and oranges’, or else we would not be able to use ‘writing’ to describe the writing in all media. all these forms of ‘media’/’art’ have writing, so we can compare them. if two things are of the same category you can compare them. to disagree would be to say that a great dame is not a bigger dog than a pug. they are both dogs. they both occupy mass. you can compare how big they are, it can be done.

similarly you can compare cgi, or painting. you can compare the cgi in Beast Wars, with that in Iron Man 3 and say with confidence that one is of better quality. you can compare the painting(technical skill displayed) in Picasso’s self portrait

with Ralph Goings’ ‘Still Life With Peppers’ 

and make a decision to which displays more technical skill. both are paintings, so they both involved painting. since they both involved painting you can compare the technical skill displayed.

the same is true for writing. if two things contain writing, you can compare the quality(technical skill) displayed.

if an element from the same category is present in both cases you can compare it.

No, not at all. That is not how that works.

The “comparable element” you are referring to here – the “painting” – is a complex process that is executed under separate certain rules and constrains and in service of separate goals.

The only thing that the two images have in common when it comes to “painting” – the only actions that were guided by the same rules, constrains and goals – are hand-eye-coordination with a stick in the hand.

According to your logic you could therefore compare painting with archery and slicing onions for salad.

What you refere to as “category” has been separated into several sub-categories by people who study that stuff for very good reason… because every set of rules/constrains/goals needs their own space to be evaluated in, simply and explicitly because they are NOT comparable.

The same goes for writing. There is no such thing as good writing itself. Neither in games nor other media. There is only good writing in relation to specific sets of rules/constrains/goals. And there are as much – sometimes mutually exclusive – concepts of what makes writing good as there are those sets. (…which is an ever growing number)

A good writing teacher will tell you exactly that.